First let me say that this just an allegation. We are in no way saying that this is proof, or that Jennifer and Israel McKinney actually did any of these things. These are copied and pasted from a MWoPer's Google reader, which is why there is no name or email attached. These were originally posted on MWoP, but once again the original poster was chastised and the comments were deleted. So here they are, make of it what you will. I have no way of knowing if these are actually from the LL or not.
And Jennifer its Mckfacts@gmail.com, ahem, you're welcome!
Hello, I just got back home and see you have replyed.
Thanks again for the heads up.
I could go on for sometime about this trainwreck of the McKinney.
They have not paid rent and they have not paid the utilities.
The home has gas heat and they have not paid for the gas for the past 4 or 5 months.
Not one bill has been paid.
They may have lied to the judge and made many false claims.
I have called ottertail county law enforcement.I have given them 30 day eviction notice.
I have informed them to my legal right and plan to move back into the home in February.
I have thought they were scamming me and would not pay rent, run up the bills and then skip town when the sherrif arrives.
They have 5 small kids and are working the system. They are crooks in my book.
They are negeling the kids and exploiting them for benifets.
I had considered calling child protective services but that may be construded as vindictive. however the kids are in danger and not looked after and properly cared for. i had on a number of occasions wittnesed the kids out of doors without coats and hats and during very cold weather and the mother was not aware where the kids were and was leaving a one year old outdoors and unattended and there are many dangerous things on old farms that can seriously hurt kids. this was also seen by me as total neglect and i have been concerned they would attempt to scam insurance too. I had brough it to their attention that they are possibly feeding goat milk that is improperly handled and maybe contaminated too. If they are intentionly trying to harm the kids to get more bennifits and hand outs too this is a crime.
Their attempt to get money from me I see as possible extortion.
Then this was posted -
And just because I can - I have to post this picture of goats in this poor mans farmhouse.
EDITED TO ADD-
There is now a Xyng Pictures page at the top of the site http://mckfacts.blogspot.com/p/xyng-pictures.html
And Jennifer its Mckfacts@gmail.com, ahem, you're welcome!
1st email
Wed, Jan
11, 2012 at 1:19 PM
Woow, and
that is putting it mildly.
I will notify the sheriff when he calls back.
I am extremely concerned for the kids.
NOW I see these kids as having been intentionally put in harms way and it would be a crime.
The figures that are on that finacial statement are questionable.
They claim utitily exspences and have not paid for the heat and any gas bills.
They have not paid rent.
Israel has been working too but not sure how his job a donnely plastic worked out.
He had just started the job in november when I had left for vacation.
With hindsight I see these kids now as being exploited.
On three occasions I had to send Mazy in the house to get clothes on.
I had told her to taken Collin in too.
I had made an extra effort to police the property for their safety sake.
I was then just so very upset when the kids were just out of control and left alone and were playing with nasty things. There was never any supervision.
But i had felt sympathy for them in the first weeks and had built them a chicken coup and then a pen outdoors too.
I had gotten them posts and wire for their goat pen too.
Trying to help them save a few bucks.
They borrowed my ATV,, tools,,and trailor,,, and boat to go fishing.
Taking full advantage.
She was looking for a blank check from me. too.
They had never intended on paying rent and the bills.
They will try to milk this until the sheriff moves them out.
BUT then turned suddenly ,,
and have made me the enemy with threats and harrasment.
I did not deserve this and it made no sense.
You have made sense of it.
I think they are trying to scam me and I will keep the sheriff posted of everything.
I am looking for an attorney to call in Minnesota too.
more when time permits
I will notify the sheriff when he calls back.
I am extremely concerned for the kids.
NOW I see these kids as having been intentionally put in harms way and it would be a crime.
The figures that are on that finacial statement are questionable.
They claim utitily exspences and have not paid for the heat and any gas bills.
They have not paid rent.
Israel has been working too but not sure how his job a donnely plastic worked out.
He had just started the job in november when I had left for vacation.
With hindsight I see these kids now as being exploited.
On three occasions I had to send Mazy in the house to get clothes on.
I had told her to taken Collin in too.
I had made an extra effort to police the property for their safety sake.
I was then just so very upset when the kids were just out of control and left alone and were playing with nasty things. There was never any supervision.
But i had felt sympathy for them in the first weeks and had built them a chicken coup and then a pen outdoors too.
I had gotten them posts and wire for their goat pen too.
Trying to help them save a few bucks.
They borrowed my ATV,, tools,,and trailor,,, and boat to go fishing.
Taking full advantage.
She was looking for a blank check from me. too.
They had never intended on paying rent and the bills.
They will try to milk this until the sheriff moves them out.
BUT then turned suddenly ,,
and have made me the enemy with threats and harrasment.
I did not deserve this and it made no sense.
You have made sense of it.
I think they are trying to scam me and I will keep the sheriff posted of everything.
I am looking for an attorney to call in Minnesota too.
more when time permits
2nd email
Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 9:27 AM
Thank you for this info.
I have been very suspicous of them for sometime.
It seamed like a scam.
I have not been told of their intent to take me to court.
I have given them 30 day eviction notice last week and contacted law enforcement..
I have learned they may have many other bills in the area.
They have made some cridical mistakes that they are not aware of.
If they have lied to the bankrupcy judge is a crime.
Their ship is sinking and they continue to poke more holes in it too.
How did you find my address?
thanks
I have been very suspicous of them for sometime.
It seamed like a scam.
I have not been told of their intent to take me to court.
I have given them 30 day eviction notice last week and contacted law enforcement..
I have learned they may have many other bills in the area.
They have made some cridical mistakes that they are not aware of.
If they have lied to the bankrupcy judge is a crime.
Their ship is sinking and they continue to poke more holes in it too.
How did you find my address?
thanks
ETA Newly added Email
Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Thanks again for the heads up.
I could go on for sometime about this trainwreck of the McKinney.
They have not paid rent and they have not paid the utilities.
The home has gas heat and they have not paid for the gas for the past 4 or 5 months.
Not one bill has been paid.
They may have lied to the judge and made many false claims.
I have called ottertail county law enforcement.I have given them 30 day eviction notice.
I have informed them to my legal right and plan to move back into the home in February.
I have thought they were scamming me and would not pay rent, run up the bills and then skip town when the sherrif arrives.
They have 5 small kids and are working the system. They are crooks in my book.
They are negeling the kids and exploiting them for benifets.
I had considered calling child protective services but that may be construded as vindictive. however the kids are in danger and not looked after and properly cared for. i had on a number of occasions wittnesed the kids out of doors without coats and hats and during very cold weather and the mother was not aware where the kids were and was leaving a one year old outdoors and unattended and there are many dangerous things on old farms that can seriously hurt kids. this was also seen by me as total neglect and i have been concerned they would attempt to scam insurance too. I had brough it to their attention that they are possibly feeding goat milk that is improperly handled and maybe contaminated too. If they are intentionly trying to harm the kids to get more bennifits and hand outs too this is a crime.
Their attempt to get money from me I see as possible extortion.
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Jennifer first started eluding to the bedbugs on December 30, 2011. Nice way to respond to kindness.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120107134028/http://mycharmingkids.net/2011/12/infested/Then this was posted -
NO RESPECT FOR ANYTHING OR ANYONE
EDITED TO ADD-
There is now a Xyng Pictures page at the top of the site http://mckfacts.blogspot.com/p/xyng-pictures.html
I see no reason why this should have been deleted or screen or whatever from MWOP.
ReplyDeleteI didn't either. Glad I'm not alone.
DeleteI agree. If the mods were afraid of jen pressing charges, all they had to say was a brief paragraph about how they were not responsible, didn't agree with all the content shared, etc. Or simply add alleged. Oh well. Glad it is here. and not "screened" lol.
DeleteYep.
DeleteI think it was removed for the reason that it couldn't (or hadn't) be proved real or factual. To me, that's good reason.
Delete"Playing with nasty things"
ReplyDeleteThe mind boggles. And outside naked in the WINTER???
Also... what type of person tries to get a blank cheque off someone?!!!! OMG, they will stoop at nothing for free money. Disgusting PIGS of people.
ReplyDeletehe never said they were naked. Perhaps under dressed? And the "blank check" thing could be a figure of speech.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, HOLYFUCKINGSHIT
Poor dude.
Rotten Jenny
Why am I not surprised?
Yes, Jen Sparks, you'd know ALL about disgusting pigs. Don't you have some kids and chores to ignore?
ReplyDeleteHow is a comment lime this related to MckMama in any way?
DeleteTake your snarky, bitchy self elsewhere.
And what does that have to do with anything? What the hell are you talking about? Nevermind, I dont want to know! Please just go somewhere fucking else. If you want to bitch about Jen McKinney, feel free. I dont know who Jen Sparks is nor do I care right now. Dont ruin the site with your pointy finger. Well, you wont ruin it for me, but dont bug others.
DeleteLooks like somebody thought she was at fucking BWoP. Hopefully she takes her nasty self back there.
DeleteAnon 10:45,
DeleteWhat is a "comment lime"?
I expect "a comment like this" was how that was meant to read.
Delete"Typo" is a language isn't it? :)
Can we seriously make this place a new "home"? I am so sick of whatever shit is happening with Anja and the blog.
ReplyDeleteTesting, AGAIN
ReplyDeleteYay! I can finally post.
ReplyDeleteI thought Rancy sounded friendlier than Rancid. ;-)
Here is the third landlord email. I copied it as soon as it was posted because Anja is a control freak and I knew she would delete it.
Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Hello, I just got back home and see you have replyed.
Thanks again for the heads up.
I could go on for sometime about this trainwreck of the McKinney.
They have not paid rent and they have not paid the utilities.
The home has gas heat and they have not paid for the gas for the past 4 or 5 months.
Not one bill has been paid.
They may have lied to the judge and made many false claims.
I have called ottertail county law enforcement.I have given them 30 day eviction notice.
I have informed them to my legal right and plan to move back into the home in February.
I have thought they were scamming me and would not pay rent, run up the bills and then skip town when the sherrif arrives.
They have 5 small kids and are working the system. They are crooks in my book.
They are negeling the kids and exploiting them for benifets.
I had considered calling child protective services but that may be construded as vindictive. however the kids are in danger and not looked after and properly cared for. i had on a number of occasions wittnesed the kids out of doors without coats and hats and during very cold weather and the mother was not aware where the kids were and was leaving a one year old outdoors and unattended and there are many dangerous things on old farms that can seriously hurt kids. this was also seen by me as total neglect and i have been concerned they would attempt to scam insurance too. I had brough it to their attention that they are possibly feeding goat milk that is improperly handled and maybe contaminated too. If they are intentionly trying to harm the kids to get more bennifits and hand outs too this is a crime.
Their attempt to get money from me I see as possible extortion.
I am gonna add this to the post, ok?
DeleteOf course! I think it must be the second one of the three? What do you think?
DeleteIt took all my willpower to not correct his spelling.
LOL me too! I pasted them all in Word and it was horrible to see all those red lines! lol
DeleteWithout a doubt they are genuine. The spelling & grammar is same as the court docs.
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting this! I can see why they didn't want it over there, it is so darned terrible and cops would surely show up on all our doorsteps for simply commenting on it! <---- Total snark, of course. Dont get me wrong, it does further confirm what an asshat 'mother' Jen is, and makes them look bad but THEY did these things, THEY made theirselves look bad.
ReplyDeleteAnd why are people on here talking about others? Good God. I just wish we could bitch and complain about Jen and whatever without all the extra crap thrown in. Guess that wont happen, but it will be nice to say what we want.
Noticed on Feedjit that we have had visitors from Lacrosse, Wisconsin.
ReplyDeleteHi Jen!!!!
I noticed that, too, Kerrie! Also, noticed two cities that are within 20 minutes of me... Everyone be sure to use "rocket good" while out and about. :)
DeleteWest Salem came up last night ;)
DeleteYou do know that you can easily change your location on Feedjit, right?
DeleteNo.
DeleteTakes less time than it takes for me to type this sentence and you can pick anywhere in the world to show up.
DeleteIs anyone else wondering what's going on with MWOP lately and, more specifically, Anja? Something just doesn't sit well with me, and I can't seem to shake the feeling that Mckinney is behind this sudden change in interest to maintain a blog based on facts. Maybe it's me, but I'm no conspiracy theorist. I just can't seem to shake the immediate and extreme changes in Anja's demeanor as it pertains to the blog. I haven't commented on any Mckmama Without Pity blog for a couple of years and don't intend to for this very reason. Someone is just off. I know it in my gut. Happy to have this outlet to share my uneasiness.
ReplyDelete"Someone" should read "someTHING"
DeleteI stopped posting over there after the farmhouse...things started feeling just wrong. Then everything went downhill from there. So glad we can hang out here now! Yay for no censoring!
Delete*waves to anyone who may remember me*
ReplyDeleteHi, hi! I'm the Lisa from OHIH and Daisy who used to go by "AP" and I'm glad someone started this blog up, so thanks to him/her! The goings on at MWOP *are disconcerting and I have a conspiracy theory, lol. I know I'm probably wrong but I'll throw it out there anyway, but has anyone else wondered if the same person or people who mod the FreeJinger site also have MWOP now? FreeJinger coming unglued happened in the same time frame that MWOP was most neglected, which *could indicate the mods were busy over on FJ and now that things are a tad calmer there, MWOP is getting more attention. It could absolutely be coincidence but it's just something I noticed and thought I'd mention.
Hey, Lisa, I remember you. Fersher here! I haven't seen you in ages! Hope all is well. :-)
DeleteWell, hi! Glad to see a familiar face here and hope all is well with you and yours, too. :-)
DeleteIf Anja was actually Alecto you can guarantee MWOP would already be monetized. It wouldn't shock me if Anja frequented FJ (or even GOMI), but I don't think she's a key player. Unless you're saying Anja is a member of the transition team at FJ? That could be.
DeleteHi Lisa! Glad to see you posting here! Without giving away my too much info, I'll say that we are FB friends, having connected there at some point after OHIH's implosion. :)
DeleteInteresting theory. I don't follow FJ much at all. But, I would add that MWOP hasn't really been getting much attention lately. Wasn't it mid-December when "more interesting posts" were promised? But then the next post nearly two weeks later was some crap post than anyone could have posted with a couple of FB screenshots or something. Then, there were weeks on end where posters were literally begging for weekly recaps and such. Those went unanswered until the last 2 weeks. Not to mention multiple posts where comments have closed because it has been 2 weeks since they were posted. Once Anja added unknown mods, the attention there has dropped.
I love Free Jinger and I think these things are unrelated. Anja had grown weary of MWOP long before the implosion at FJ. The "new mods" at MWOP completely suck, I don't know what all went down in order to pick them but Anja said they were people who were interested but don't participate. That has always sat very wrong with me. Now we see that they don't really do anything at all. I believe the weekly recaps the last couple weeks have been Anja. She picked bad people to help her and now she's apparently doing it all on her own again. The whole thing is very weird and honestly I'm glad there's another place to comment with familiar people because MWOP has become too dramatic with the hall monitors and tattlers and the lack of real information. I'm glad MckFacts has posted the things that are here and I hope that more real information can be put here, like recaps and photos people take at all her zing fling pizza cheat sprinkle parties. People go to these things and then are made to feel badly about sharing their experiences. It's ridiculous! If Jen ever came where I live you can be damn sure I would attend and let you guys know every sordid detail, lol.
DeleteAnja said something about how she doesn't even know who the moderators are. How does that even make sense? This all seemed to start when the domain changed from mwopblog to mckmamatruths under questionable circumstances. Nothing has seemed legit since then regarding the site ownership, site governance, and the moderation practices.
DeleteThis is for Lisa: I do not think FreeJinger and MWOP are tied together. I was one of the people who outed the FJ situation, and I know the old owner. Good theory, but I think off base. I used to be quite involved with FJ, as a moderator but I quit after the exposure and the cray of the new regime.
DeleteThe feeling is the same, though.
" I don't know what all went down in order to pick them but Anja said they were people who were interested but don't participate." I totally agree that is weird, Flawed. It never made sense, and I thought something was off about the domain change as well. I cant put my finger on it, I am not techy in that area, but it just didn't all add up. I do think Anja is burned out, and I dont blame her. But.... something is just not right.
DeleteLisa do you ever check your Daisy site? Seems there is no input on it lately from you.
Delete"If Anja was actually Alecto you can guarantee MWOP would already be monetized."
DeleteOh, no, I don't think this at all. And I'll add that while I don't begin to understand everything Anja has done or even agree with it, I think she's on the up and up and a good egg. I actually have a gut feeling she's pretty much an outsider in the whole MWOP mod thing now, although if that's the case, I'm not sure why she sticks around at all. No, I'm wondering if some of the FJ people, Alecto, took MWOP over and then it became a low priority to mess with when all hell broke loose on FJ. Granted, I've not analyzed the hell out of time frames, nor do I read FJ all that often but the absences and lack of attention on MWOP MckKash (hi!!) spoke of up there after being promised more seemed to happen during the chaos on FJ, didn't they? I freely acknowledge I could be reading waaaay too much into things, though, especially since someone up there knows the old FJ mod. Wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. ;-)
Anon, I haven't been to Daisy in forever, but will go check it now. It was just so dead for so long, I kind of lost interest and let it go. Thanks for letting me know there's something there. Pure laziness on my part, I admit.
I love all the conspiracy theories; keep 'em coming! :)
DeleteI think Roobii may have put some fear into Anja.
DeleteThere was awhile there that Roobii seemed to have changed her tune and anytime someone made a comment that she didn't agree with, she'd tell them something along the lines of Jennifer could sue them, so they shouldn't say that.
Has Roobii been posting on MWOP lately? Does she have another/new name?
DeleteMaybe Roobii is anja LOL
DeleteNah, don't you remember? Roobii is Hilary.
Delete;-)
Thank you for putting these here and confirming what we already knew. That poor guy. I bet he googles renters now!!
ReplyDeleteWhat proof is there that these emails are real? Can't you post that actual email in a picture and edit out the details instead of just cut/pasting the content?
ReplyDeleteThe person with the actual emails will not send the emails to be posted. Anja told her not to.?
DeleteI personally believe these emails are from the landlord. His spelling is a dead giveaway.
If you believe these emails are fake, why would someone make them up what, a year later?
Did you read what I put up before the emails? These are copied from Google Reader, the person who posted them on MWoP did not send these to me. I also stated I have no idea whether these are from the LL or not.
DeleteThere isn't any evidence that they are real, so why would I believe a random poster claiming that they are real? I have no idea why anyone would make them up a year later, but I have no idea why lots of people do lots of things.
DeleteYes, Jennifer I read your disclaimer but there are many people who seem to have missed your comments before the emails. I didn't see them on mwop, so I didn't know what format they were originally posted. I can't believe anyone would believe that they are real without the email headers but then again...people believe what they want to believe.
"but there are many people who seem to have missed your comments before the emails"
DeleteProjecting your inability to read a complete paragraph onto others does nothing for your argument.
Nor your Rancy, nor yours. :)
DeleteOh the irony in your comments, lol.
My comments are at the top of this post!
DeleteSorry you didn't see them when they were posted on mwop. There seems to be many people who did see them posted. :)
DeleteLOL!
DeleteI'm perfectly capable of reading entire blog posts, sweetie. I'm so sorry you are not.
And when I actually DO present an argument, I'll be sure to let you know.
Sweetie? I think not, lol and clearly you are missing the point of my question and comment. But read again, you might glean it the next time. ;)
DeleteAs for not seeing them on mwop, I wasn't on at that time, why is that a point?
Could this be Shell the Great? Nasty old Shell this sure does sound familiar. Sorry if you are not Shell,as she is vile and I would not want me name spoken in the same breath with hers.
Delete"Sweetie? I think not"
DeleteWell, duh, thus the facetious use of the term. Get it now? Sweetie?
Though I do think it's kinda cute, sweetie, that you imagine one would have to read your comment more than once to understand that you are not the brightest bulb in the pack.
"I have no idea why lots of people do lots of things"
I do so adore unintentional admissions of truth. ;-)
Now there's a might big crusty dragon :)
DeleteShell, you cheeky monkey :) You are off your trolley dear one. Take your mind of minions and clear off sweetie, and while you are at it mind your own pocket full of bought off arse over tit friends that have bloody well turned MWOP into rubbish as well.
Oh Rancy, more insults, that just says so much more about you. I always find it interesting when people can't carry on a conversation without insults, so sad really.
DeleteNo not shell, just a person that isn't a blind follower of anyone or anything. Just someone who isn't afraid to ask questions, even if it means that others will attempt to insult when questions are asked.
Reminds me of all those comments I've read about how rude and mean JM is when someone asked a question on her blog and now facebook/instagram. LoL.
I am glad to see that this site is here. Am I the only one having trouble accessing the blog? It seems like at least once a day I can't connect to it, regardless of what device I am using to get onto it.
ReplyDeleteHmm, that's strange; I just checked and it's working fine for me. I'm using Firefox, if that helps.
DeleteCan I add, too, how much this comment bothers me?
ReplyDelete"Thankful today for a Savior who loved me enough to die for me."
I do not consider myself to be a Christian for a variety of reasons but I was raised in a heavily Southern Baptist family, know my Bible and am a pretty big fan of Jesus, despite not sharing the "Christian" view of him. That all said, never have I heard anyone say what she did up there. I've heard "Jesus died for our sins" or "Jesus died for us" but I have never, in all my 50 years in a rather preachy family, heard anyone say He died for "me". To equate it to something non-religious and show I'm not nitpicking semantics, it would be like her saying "Thankful today Wisconsin put that highway in for me." I've truly heard some arrogant things come out of her mouth but this one takes the cake.
Perhaps coming from a pretty evangelical church, this is not unusual for me. I hear it often. The whole personal relationship thing.
DeleteI hear it often, very common. I come from and attend a pretty middle of the road Christian church.
DeleteHuh...well, it still bugs me but it *is better knowing it's not uncommon to hear. Maybe I need to go to church more. ;-) Thanks!
DeleteWhy does it bug you? It is the truth, as least that is what my religion teaches me.
DeleteNot trying to be snarky, but look at who we are are talking about. Would it bug you less if someone else said it? I mean, she is so me me me, so when she says something like that, it could take on a whole different meaning. I don't think it's uncommon, like someone said above, it's personal relationship thing. I think Jesus died for me and my sins along with all of mankind. Since she thinks she is so special, then it might mean something different to her. Know what I mean. This in no way meant to be a smarty pants attitude to you.
Deletetotally normal in plenty of circles. "me" is part of "us" and "our", after all, right?
DeleteIt bugs me because it sounds so very arrogant to my ears. I've honestly never heard anyone else say that, it's always been "we" and "our" but if some of y'all have heard it said as she did, then I accept I've just not heard it but that it's not uncommon. And yes, it would bug me every bit as much to hear that from anyone, for the same reason, so it's probably a good thing I now know it's not uncommon to be said in that manner so I can be prepared. ;-)
DeleteAs a Christian, I believe that I am special, to Jesus at least. I just did a google search on that phrase and tons of hits come up, it' a very common phrase for many Christians. The hit on her facebook page wasn't even on page one of google, that is how common.
DeleteNot being snarky or smarty pants here either.
I didn't take it as such. I see now it's something I've just never encountered but obviously still pretty common. :-)
DeleteWhen you enter McMama in the FB search facility there is a snark page listed right under JM's.
ReplyDeleteHilary's oldest child's biological father has posted there about how Hilary & Thunderbolt have excluded him from the boy's life.
Just wow!!!
I can't find it, can you give a link?
Deletehttps://www.facebook.com/pages/MckMama/526077450746990
DeleteI believe everything he says about the family but I also believe that any parent who is not willing to fight tooth and nail to be a parent is scum.
Deletehe sounds like he's as big a loser as she is
DeleteThunderbolt ::snort::
DeleteThe Mck-family are losers, he's correct. Having said that, he wasn't 'forced' to give up his parental rights. Sounds like he didn't want to pay child support.
ReplyDeleteWhen Hilary's x started a blog frog discussion to gain sympathy he admitted to giving up parental rights to two other children. The guy is a scumbag
ReplyDeleteSo both sisters are attracted to weak men who procreate freely and then drop the ball.
Delete